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Post by NEOsloppy » Jan 30 2020 9:40am

Hello

I just started on my first ebike conversion using voilmart 1500 watt kit and a mongoose mack.

I just saw that voilmart is selling the clone stealth bomber frames which is what I had really wanted to build in the first place. 289 on ebay with free shipping so that is on its way. has anyone else used the voimart stealth frame yet? i assume its the same general clone frame but was just curios.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Electric-Bicyc ... 0008.m2219
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Post by HK12K » Jan 30 2020 11:01am

Not familiar with that particular knockoff but if it's like most of them you're probably going to want to yank the garbage squishy rubber swingarm bushing out of it and replace it with a proper bearing. Also I'd suggest putting nordlock washers on the swingarm, axles, and clamping dropouts at a minimum.

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Post by NEOsloppy » Jan 30 2020 12:20pm

Yeah been reading up on them. definitely see the bushings as a upgrade. :thumb:

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Post by Dauntless » Jan 30 2020 3:31pm

So he needs to know what this proper bearing is.

Tell him forks, too. Doesn't look like a rear shock is in the picture, or even if there is, what should he replace it with?
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Post by HK12K » Jan 30 2020 3:37pm

I don't recall off the top of my head, (Edit: SKF) but frankly if he's savvy enough to be ordering this stuff he's probably savvy enough to do a search and find the info on his own. Especially if his frame is uncharted territory and may not be an exact match for the sizes used on other eeb frames.

Same for suspension. He didn't ask. Why would I even offer an opinion? I have no idea what his budget or intended use is.
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Post by MadRhino » Jan 30 2020 3:41pm

Anyone is free to ride cheap sh*t, and hopefully learn from it before consequences are too harsh. :mrgreen:
Make it fool-proof, and I will make a better fool.
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Post by HK12K » Jan 30 2020 3:44pm

MadRhino wrote:
Jan 30 2020 3:41pm
Anyone is free to ride cheap sh*t, and hopefully learn from it before consequences are too harsh. :mrgreen:
I was pretty surprised to see someone riding one of the knockoff bikes here while I was out for a ride the other day. There are a ton on CL with asking prices upwards of 7 grand. Batshit insane.

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Post by markz » Jan 30 2020 11:31pm

Whats the appeal of the generic enduro ebike frames?

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Post by Dauntless » Jan 31 2020 1:47am

markz wrote:
Jan 30 2020 11:31pm
Whats the appeal of the generic enduro ebike frames?
Cheap?
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Post by NEOsloppy » Jan 31 2020 8:31am

HK12K wrote:
Jan 30 2020 3:37pm
I don't recall off the top of my head, (Edit: SKF) but frankly if he's savvy enough to be ordering this stuff he's probably savvy enough to do a search and find the info on his own. Especially if his frame is uncharted territory and may not be an exact match for the sizes used on other eeb frames.

Same for suspension. He didn't ask. Why would I even offer an opinion? I have no idea what his budget or intended use is.
I should be able to spec out the bearings and other parts. I was more curious if anyone had used this clone yet. If it’s uncharted I can be first.

Intended d use is just a project. All the trails around here are basically fire roads. So it will be on pavement and gravel dirt roads. Nothing terribly exciting

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Post by markz » Jan 31 2020 2:23pm

Dauntless wrote:
Jan 31 2020 1:47am
markz wrote:
Jan 30 2020 11:31pm
Whats the appeal of the CHEAP generic enduro ebike frames?
Cheap?
;)

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Post by NEOsloppy » Jan 31 2020 7:54pm

So showed up one day after I ordered. awesome shipping. packaging was great. looks pretty good. does not have the rubber bushings on the swing arm its bushing set up should be pretty easy to press out and replace with bearings.

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Post by Dauntless » Jan 31 2020 10:34pm

Well you know, the answer is STILL cheap. New Mustang GT's are neat, but people are more than ready to settle for my 8 year old V6, if only.

I'm pondering getting one of those frames he posted myself. Unless you know a cheaper one. What's a good, cheap mountain bike fork? Doesn't have to be fast.

I'd also like the Dynacorn unibody of the '69 Camaro, I could build it up with maybe the Volt drivetrain. . . .

Oops, over $40k. My old car just keeps getting cheaper.
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Post by HK12K » Feb 01 2020 12:00pm

Dauntless wrote:
Jan 31 2020 10:34pm

I'm pondering getting one of those frames he posted myself. Unless you know a cheaper one. What's a good, cheap mountain bike fork? Doesn't have to be fast.
I'm far from an expert on the subject but it seems that if budget is a concern the USD DNM-8 is worth considering if you're buying new. Decent fork at a good price. If you're buying used and can find something that hasn't had the steerer tube cut to the point of uselessness you can consider stepping up to a more familiar brand like marzocchi, DVO, Fox, etc.

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Post by Dauntless » Feb 02 2020 12:42am

Darn, i is poo people an' wishes to avoid a $500 fork. But i dont know if this one is even worth the $220+.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/26-ZOOM-Downhi ... 3973223047
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Post by HK12K » Feb 02 2020 12:46am

I've never heard anyone say anything good about Zoom forks. You'd probably be better off trying to source a used DNM.

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Post by Dauntless » Feb 02 2020 1:00am

Yeah, they never do say anything good about what i can afford.
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Post by HK12K » Feb 02 2020 1:37pm

Dauntless wrote:
Feb 02 2020 1:00am
Yeah, they never do say anything good about what i can afford.
I hear ya. I'm not exactly rolling in dough myself so I often try to buy quality stuff that's pre-owned when it makes sense to do so.

If you're on a budget and don't expect the world of it the Zoom might be just fine. Just don't push your luck because a fork failure at speed sounds like a bad time. With that questionable looking steerer tube and cast pot metal crown I'd have concerns.

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Post by MadRhino » Feb 02 2020 7:33pm

When I was young, I have built pretty good bikes from scrap and recycling. Lots of work but very low cost for good quality. Trading your time and effort for the quality that you can’t afford is wise, instructing and profitable; much better than buying brand new cheap crap.
Make it fool-proof, and I will make a better fool.
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