The Frey HT1000 - And yes, HT stands for Hardtail! *updated*

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Re: The Frey HT1000 - And yes, HT stands for Hardtail! *updated*

Post by formula101 » Jan 01 2020 3:53pm

Most riders can make multiple frame sizes work for them.

It would be great if buyers report back on sizing.

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Re: The Frey HT1000 - And yes, HT stands for Hardtail! *updated*

Post by mikespub » Jan 01 2020 8:23pm

guel135 wrote:
Jan 01 2020 2:39pm
I hope next week I can get mine and my height is 1,84m. Usually, I ride always in my bikes Size L (Cannondale, Mondraker) and in road bike 56cm. I hope I was right because I didt though about getting XL size.
Hi Miguel - Thank you, I suspect you made the right choice, and think FREY bikes are likely sized like the others. I think I will go with the Large size too. I have one more day to change my mind. :D I hope you get your bike soon. I read this entire thread and would like to see pix of your bike and to hear how the commute goes! Best of luck, Mike.

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Post by brake034 » Jan 01 2020 8:53pm

I checked, I have about 15 cm clearance in standover height, based on a Frey HT in XL with 29" wheels and wearing sport shoes.

I am 1m92 tall and my inseam jeans size is 34.
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Post by entropic » Jan 02 2020 1:35pm

mikespub wrote:
Jan 01 2020 11:51am
I am interested in an HT1000, primarily for transportation, just getting around. I occasionally ride on trails, but not technically challenging trails... the kind of trails that people walk on with kids. I need to decide on frame size. My inseam is about 30-31in (about 76cm, or 32in / 81cm with shoes on) and I am about 6'1" (185cm) tall. Grace recommended the XL frame, based on my height. I think I should prioritize standover height, I am leaning toward the Large Frame size. Does anybody have an HT1000 with the large frame size? How tall are you, and do you know your inseam?
I'm 1.8m-ish, PBH 86cm, wear a 32" inseam pant, ride a 56-58cm touring road bike... I bought the large (w/ 27.5+ wheels) and think it's the right size for me. SO height is tight but it works for me as I'd generally want to ride a bigger bike for comfort reasons.

I think I probably could have fit just fine on a medium as well.

I had a lot of trouble figuring out how I'd fit before I bought since the geometry isn't like anything else I've ridden/could easily find.

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Post by mikespub » Jan 02 2020 5:05pm

formula101, entropic and brake034, Thank you all. Your replies are helpful with the uncertainty from online ordering. I am in the same boat as entropic - do not have experience with this type of frame geometry (Nor a 1000W motor!). I think/hope this info will help other FREY customers in the future as well. My Best, Mike.

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Post by mikespub » Jan 03 2020 12:27pm

After a non-trivial and undue amount of hang-wringing, navel-gazing, and kvetching... I ordered my HT1000 today. (Psyche!) I think the happiest person will be Grace at FREY... because she wont need to answer my questions and talk me off the ledge anymore.
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Post by brake034 » Jan 03 2020 10:07pm

Congrats Mike, I am sure you will not be disappointed.
Any plans to come to Sea Otter?
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Post by mikespub » Jan 04 2020 12:08pm

Sea Otter sounds like great fun, but I will not be coming. I live on the other side of the US, unfortunately that is too far/expensive for me.

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Re: The Frey HT1000 - And yes, HT stands for Hardtail! *updated*

Post by guel135 » Jan 09 2020 3:06am

My bike still in Poland customs since 23 December, I still waiting for them to release it :cry: :cry: :cry:

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Post by clem » Jan 09 2020 3:05pm

Guel135 did you receive your toy HT1000 ? is it fun and faast ? :D

edit 11 january : thanks for your previous answer by mail i've just saw it
it's coming soon :bigthumb:
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Post by mikespub » Jan 09 2020 8:38pm

guel135 wrote:
Jan 09 2020 3:06am
My bike still in Poland customs since 23 December, I still waiting for them to release it :cry: :cry: :cry:


Ugh. I hope it clears customs and is delivered soon. My HT1000 wont arrive until mid-April. I might buy a Rad Rover to ride around while I am waiting. :lol:

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Post by Tjeska » Jan 09 2020 10:19pm

guel135 wrote:
Jan 09 2020 3:06am
My bike still in Poland customs since 23 December, I still waiting for them to release it :cry: :cry: :cry:
Same story here, AM1000 is there since 23/12.
Hope to get the bike soon...

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Post by guel135 » Jan 11 2020 5:55am

Tjeska wrote:
Jan 09 2020 10:19pm
guel135 wrote:
Jan 09 2020 3:06am
My bike still in Poland customs since 23 December, I still waiting for them to release it :cry: :cry: :cry:
Same story here, AM1000 is there since 23/12.
Hope to get the bike soon...
Probably they are together in the same container. I asked Grace today and nothing in the tracking yet. She will ping the shipping agent again. I am sure that the bike will come to Germany when the temperature start to be below zero :confused:

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Post by Tjeska » Jan 12 2020 12:20am

guel135 wrote:
Jan 11 2020 5:55am
I am sure that the bike will come to Germany when the temperature start to be below zero :confused:
My thoughts exactly :roll:

All we can do is wait and hope for the best...

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Post by pj1 » Jan 17 2020 8:49pm

Hey guys, I thought you might like to see what I did with an HT1000 frame:

Principal specs:

—Bafang Ultra motor
—52V 17.5aH Battery
—Egg Rider V2 Display

—Rohloff 14-speed Internally Geared Hub
—Lauf Grit Carbon Fiber Fork

—Custom CNC-machined Chainring Spider
—Cirrus Kinekt Suspension Seatpost
—Brooks B17 Saddle

It was a fun build with some unique challenges. On the road now for only a few days, but I must say, so far it rides like a dream!

—pete
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Re: The Frey HT1000 - And yes, HT stands for Hardtail! *updated*

Post by entropic » Jan 17 2020 9:18pm

pj1 wrote:
Jan 17 2020 8:49pm
Hey guys, I thought you might like to see what I did with an HT1000 frame:


:shock: :shock: :shock:

That's an amazing build! What do you think of the Eggrider? And the Rohloff/Ultra combo?

Can't wait to hear how it is with more saddle time!

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Post by pj1 » Jan 18 2020 12:55am

Thanks entropic! The Rohloff is brilliant. I’ve used one on another ebike for years with no problems. You get that perfect chainline in all gears. I’m using a 48t chain wheel up front, thanks to advice from this thread, so the highest gear is very effective at high speeds—no ineffectual spinning. Downside of course is that it’s expensive. I’ve also used a comparatively cheap 3 speed sturmey archer IGH on another bike and found that 3 gears is fine on an ebike—5 speeds would be perfect!

The EggRider is very well designed, and it’s easy to program the motor using an iPhone or Android...no more monkeying around with a computer, com ports etc. it’s excellent. My only complaint is that the nice oled screen is invisible in bright sunlight with sunglasses on—polarized lenses I guess.

Overall the best ebike I’ve ever had and I’ve built a lot of them!

pete

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Post by Tom » Jan 18 2020 1:09am

Just wondering how noisy the Rohloff is? I'm assuming it's the only feasible IGH to pair with the Ultra. I noticed Luna paired the 5 Speed Sturmey with M600 on their BABE but isn't offering the Ludi option. Guessing they figured the Ludi would be too much power.

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Post by pj1 » Jan 18 2020 3:56am

Generally the Rohloff is quiet, although there is some mechanical noise in the lower gears. Most often the motor is louder than the Rohloff.

The 3 speed sturmey I use on another bike with a bbshd I’m pretty careful with, as there is occasionally some skipping and it feels like it might be easy to damage the gears. In contrast, the Rohloff is solid as a rock. One of its advantages, especially for ebikes, is that it uses sacrificial nylon shear components which will fail under undue stress thus saving the main metal gears from harm.

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Re: The Frey HT1000 - And yes, HT stands for Hardtail! *updated*

Post by guel135 » Jan 20 2020 10:44am

pj1 wrote:
Jan 17 2020 8:49pm
Hey guys, I thought you might like to see what I did with an HT1000 frame:
—pete
Super cool bike. I wonder how much you paid for the Rohloff and if it is worth it. I really like the idea of a more gravel bike than mtb for this bike and I checked the prize of the fork you put and it is out I want to spend on this bike but I would probably look later for a rigid carbon fork to make it, even more, commuting machine. What type of tube has the fork?

Mine is still not here and it is somewhere out the Poland Customs waiting for been in the UPS deliver to ride to Germany... I hope I can get it in the weekend!

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Post by pj1 » Jan 21 2020 2:33pm

The Rohloff is about $2000, which includes building the wheel and fitting to the frame, so it's certainly very expensive. This bike is now my primary transportation so that's how I justify the cost. I would have been happy with a 5 speed or even 3 speed IGH, but as far as I know there are no such hubs compatible with through axle frames like the HT.

Also, re the earlier question about the Eggrider, I mentioned that it is hard or even impossible to read in bright sun and sunglasses, but if you have an iPhone or Android, you can use that as the display, which works very well.

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Re: The Frey HT1000 - And yes, HT stands for Hardtail! *updated*

Post by shap08 » Jan 23 2020 9:02pm

Update after owning for 4 months
My tamed black stallion :lol:

I've already got a Stone 52T chain ring waiting to be installed. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3297607 ... 4c4dPu2yMo

Out with the little one, she loves it!
Child seat: Urban Iki Rear Child Seat Black/Brown, quick release makes it so easy to pull off when I got to work.
https://www.urbaniki.com/en/product/urb ... rear-seat/
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Bicycle Bell Electric Ring Remote Bike Horn Alarm https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3285883 ... 4c4dPu2yMo
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Mirror is a lifesaver! Highly recommend for commuters! https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3302144 ... 4c4dPu2yMo
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Phone holder https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3298341 ... 4c4dPu2yMo
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Plastic wrapped my display as I have heard people say its not water proof
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Cassette wear after 700km, 90% commuter, very hilly terrain.
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I had trouble with the brake light rubbing on the rear wheel so I bent the metal up :P
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Seat from my old bike, and trusty kryptonite evolution series 4
https://www.kryptonitelock.com/en/produ ... 00808.html
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Re: The Frey HT1000 - And yes, HT stands for Hardtail! *updated*

Post by guel135 » Jan 24 2020 3:13am

First of all thanks @pj1 and @shap08 to reply my questions. It is helpful to have some real non paid review information about the bike and possible upgrades.

I have some questions to shap08:
- What controllers do you have in the handlebar? You have more buttons than a plane :)
- Do you have an extra light apart of the stock one?
- I thought the maximum chainring is 48t. Are planning any hack to put the 52t?


My bike still somewhere in Poland and another 2 frey users that got their bikes sent at the same time their AM1000 were sent to each other. The Belgium guy receive the bike from the Netherlands and the Netherlands the other way around. Likely the live no so far and they are exchanging each driving by car... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: The Frey HT1000 - And yes, HT stands for Hardtail! *updated*

Post by Tjeska » Jan 24 2020 2:31pm

guel135 wrote:
Jan 24 2020 3:13am
Likely the live no so far and they are exchanging each driving by car... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yes, Monday we will exchange our bikes 😁

Hope you get yours soon!

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Post by guel135 » Feb 01 2020 4:47pm

I already got the bike. Felt fast and amazing but it is heavy raining this weekends. I hope I can do my commute test next week. :)

Worst thing... My bike storage is in the basement where I though on putting my bike with very narrow stairs. This was not a problem with my 10kg mtb and with mine 7kgs roadbike. But this bike is really heavy even I dismount the battery every time I am going down.

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