My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by robocam » Dec 08 2017 5:53am

By the way, I just found out the PDF file was not supposed to be posted in public, so if you have it, please do not share it.

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Post by oleaiz » Dec 08 2017 6:30am

Ok. No problem. I will try to tranlate it, take time. If you get the software, let me know.

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Post by nataS@phnet.fi » Dec 08 2017 9:29am

Yeah, no problem. It's actually nice to see someone in Frey follows ours posts and can learn what customers want and need :)

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Post by oleaiz » Dec 08 2017 9:35am

Naya. How long time was shipping from China to Finland? Custom tax in Finland then you got bike?

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Post by oleaiz » Dec 09 2017 6:21am

Got the pictures of my bike. Will be ready for shipping on Monday. Any comments/observations?
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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by nataS@phnet.fi » Dec 09 2017 10:41am

oleaiz wrote:
Dec 08 2017 9:35am
Naya. How long time was shipping from China to Finland? Custom tax in Finland then you got bike?
Took about 6 weeks to deliver to Finland, taxes of course at the highest level so final price was far for cheap :( I guess after a while I forget the cost and ride it like I stole it more :)

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by Kitaro1999 » Dec 09 2017 2:00pm

Those headlights look cool. What are those?
Congrats on the Bike. Look forward to hearing from you about your experience.

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Post by robocam » Dec 09 2017 3:13pm

Lookin' good =) Hey, how come you got a headlight. Congrats!

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Post by robocam » Dec 09 2017 3:14pm

How much did you have to pay extra if you don't mind my asking?
nataS@phnet.fi wrote:
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Took about 6 weeks to deliver to Finland, taxes of course at the highest level so final price was far for cheap :( I guess after a while I forget the cost and ride it like I stole it more :)

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by oleaiz » Dec 09 2017 4:28pm

Six week to Finland? Which shipping option did you use? How much was shipping? I paid 830 USD for airway shipping by TNT, hope it will be fast.

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Post by nataS@phnet.fi » Dec 10 2017 1:23pm

oleaiz wrote:
Dec 09 2017 4:28pm
Six week to Finland? Which shipping option did you use? How much was shipping? I paid 830 USD for airway shipping by TNT, hope it will be fast.
Battery came first, bike came week later. Taxes were something like 30% of the total cost including shipping. Finland is a great place, it feels like you pay taxes just that you can pay more taxes. Main reason we have oldest cars in whole Europe, horrendous taxes on everything. TNT with me also. I think shipping was quite fast, it was building of the bike that took the time. Just my thoughts.

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by hoojsn » Dec 12 2017 12:21am

nataS@phnet.fi wrote:
Dec 10 2017 1:23pm
oleaiz wrote:
Dec 09 2017 4:28pm
Six week to Finland? Which shipping option did you use? How much was shipping? I paid 830 USD for airway shipping by TNT, hope it will be fast.
Battery came first, bike came week later. Taxes were something like 30% of the total cost including shipping. Finland is a great place, it feels like you pay taxes just that you can pay more taxes. Main reason we have oldest cars in whole Europe, horrendous taxes on everything. TNT with me also. I think shipping was quite fast, it was building of the bike that took the time. Just my thoughts.
Nice Bike, my friend and myself bought one bike each from another Vendor in China. That is a Hard taili, if dual suspension add another US$200. As for shipment to him in US it cost US%650 but declared a value of less than US$250, so no tax. As for me in Asia no Tax if declared under value of US$250, but shipment cost US$380. Both Battery and bike arrive within a week from both location.
1. A important question, in Finland (Europe) is there a legal speed limit of 25km/hr with 250 watts engine? The other question, does your 2. Newest Ultra Drive came with "Steel Drive Gear" instead of Nylon plastic, did yours came with that steel materiel?

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Post by robocam » Dec 12 2017 1:04am

Wow, I'm glad I wasn't charged any tax in the US. But you're right though. You'll forget about the initial pain of the cost and enjoy it for years to come. Yeah, shipping was lightning fast. I got it in one day!
nataS@phnet.fi wrote:
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oleaiz wrote:
Dec 09 2017 4:28pm
Six week to Finland? Which shipping option did you use? How much was shipping? I paid 830 USD for airway shipping by TNT, hope it will be fast.
Battery came first, bike came week later. Taxes were something like 30% of the total cost including shipping. Finland is a great place, it feels like you pay taxes just that you can pay more taxes. Main reason we have oldest cars in whole Europe, horrendous taxes on everything. TNT with me also. I think shipping was quite fast, it was building of the bike that took the time. Just my thoughts.

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Post by robocam » Dec 12 2017 1:06am

Thanks =) It most likely comes with the stock plastic gear.[EDIT: I just found out it mine came with the steel gear!] Even the stand-alone Ultra's from Luna Cycle come with a plastic gear. I just asked Luna. If their ludicrous model came with a metal gear, that would be an incentive to buy it. However, I don't think you'll have any issues unless you're running over 30A.
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Dec 12 2017 12:21am
Nice Bike, my friend and myself bought one bike each from another Vendor in China. That is a Hard taili, if dual suspension add another US$200. As for shipment to him in US it cost US%650 but declared a value of less than US$250, so no tax. As for me in Asia no Tax if declared under value of US$250, but shipment cost US$380. Both Battery and bike arrive within a week from both location.
1. A important question, in Finland (Europe) is there a legal speed limit of 25km/hr with 250 watts engine? The other question, does your 2. Newest Ultra Drive came with "Steel Drive Gear" instead of Nylon plastic, did yours came with that steel materiel?
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Post by robocam » Dec 12 2017 1:09am

I just received the programming software but it's for Frey bike owners only, so I can't share it. I'll let you know what I find when I get a chance to test it out. I only have a Luna BBSHD programming cable, so hopefully it's compatible. Otherwise I may have to make one myself. Here's where they interface with the Ultra. I'm hoping that's coming from the main connector up front, on top.
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Post by robocam » Dec 12 2017 1:16am

Yes, I agree. They are very open to suggestions for improvement, which is very nice. I've been compiling a list of suggestions.
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Yeah, no problem. It's actually nice to see someone in Frey follows ours posts and can learn what customers want and need :)

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robocam wrote:
Dec 12 2017 1:09am
I just received the programming software but it's for Frey bike owners only, so I can't share it. I'll let you know what I find when I get a chance to test it out. I only have a Luna BBSHD programming cable, so hopefully it's compatible. Otherwise I may have to make one myself. Here's where they interface with the Ultra. I'm hoping that's coming from the main connector up front, on top.
I read from somewhere that BBSHD cable is compatible with the Ultra. I don't mind the software update as I am afraid that it screw up with the current setting of mine. My Ultra came with no speed limit of 99km/hr and Throttle could be use at PAS0 or dead stop. Just interested to know whether your Ultra came with a "Steel Drive Gear" instead of the plastic nylon. I don't like the walk mode, it was too fast.
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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by hoojsn » Dec 12 2017 10:55am

robocam wrote:
Dec 12 2017 1:06am
Thanks =) It most likely comes with the stock plastic gear. Even the Ultra's from Luna Cycle come with a plastic gear. I just asked Luna. If their ludicrous model came with a metal gear, that would be an incentive to buy it. However, I don't think you'll have any issues unless you're running over 30A.
hoojsn wrote:
Dec 12 2017 12:21am
Nice Bike, my friend and myself bought one bike each from another Vendor in China. That is a Hard taili, if dual suspension add another US$200. As for shipment to him in US it cost US%650 but declared a value of less than US$250, so no tax. As for me in Asia no Tax if declared under value of US$250, but shipment cost US$380. Both Battery and bike arrive within a week from both location.
1. A important question, in Finland (Europe) is there a legal speed limit of 25km/hr with 250 watts engine? The other question, does your 2. Newest Ultra Drive came with "Steel Drive Gear" instead of Nylon plastic, did yours came with that steel materiel?
Not true, Luna will come with a "Steel Drive Gear" so is FLX Blade. You can read the below review. For Flx you need to check up on their website.

https://electricbike-blog.com/2017/11/1 ... y-can-buy/

Previously Karl had written a article in programming the Ultra, but it was being taken down.

As for my case, they will sent me a Steel gear once available.

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Post by robocam » Dec 12 2017 12:47pm

Actually, it was because of that article that I contacted Luna support, and they told me their stand-alone Ultra mid drive in the link below does not come with the steel gear.

https://lunacycle.com/bafang-ultra-moto ... mid-drive/
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Not true, Luna will come with a "Steel Drive Gear"...
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robocam wrote:
Dec 12 2017 12:47pm
Actually, it was because of that article that I contacted Luna support, and they told me their Ultra mid drive here does not come with a steel gear.

https://lunacycle.com/bafang-ultra-moto ... mid-drive/
hoojsn wrote:
Dec 12 2017 10:55am
Not true, Luna will come with a "Steel Drive Gear"...
If you read from FLx website on Blade, they give you the info. However, I am not sure whether they pull down the detail. However, I will update you if I receive it.

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Post by robocam » Dec 12 2017 6:05pm

I was able to program my Ultra! I am so happy with the way the torque sensor behaves now. I'm making a video that should be ready soon.

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Post by oleaiz » Dec 12 2017 6:27pm

Was it ok programming Ultra with BBSHD cable? Can you share you settings or your settings file? Any other modifications you think are useful for this bike?

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Post by robocam » Dec 12 2017 6:30pm

Yes, I used this cable.

https://lunacycle.com/parts/bafang-part ... ing-cable/

I've only begun to play with the settings, but yeah, I can share settings that I'm happy with and tell you what they do.
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Was it ok programming Ultra with BBSHD cable? Can you share you settings or your settings file? Any other modifications you think are useful for this bike?

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Post by oleaiz » Dec 12 2017 6:33pm

Thank you. You can mail to my mail
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Post by robocam » Dec 12 2017 6:39pm

Well, I don't have a settings file. I plan to share settings for specific parameters. That way you can adjust it to your liking. I'll post screenshots and try to explain what certain adjustments do. It's very easy, so for those that haven't done it before, have no fear.
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Thank you. You can mail to my mail
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